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Subject: Wednesday's 7x4w

Date: Mon Jan 30 00:03:08 2023
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:
7x4w Top-10 by the column "Total ↓"

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2Klepp
310.0051.671211
3smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
300.8337.60111211
4TitanicTony
283.5035.4413111
5outskirts
280.0046.671211
6act
223.0037.1711111
7sebcbien2
195.7524.4711131
8RottinJohn
149.0024.8311111
9Mastermind
114.0028.50111
10redberet
106.5021.301111


Link: WWCX home page

Date: Wed Feb 1 00:08:18 2023
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:
The WWCX is underway.

Date: Thu Feb 2 00:00:58 2023
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:
Week 119 (01-Feb-2023 7x4w)

#PlayerStreakPoints16-week32-week53-weekYearlyAlltime
=================
πŸ₯‡HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom25100.001454.002771.504217.50410.008564.00
πŸ₯ˆKlepp1972.00787.331437.922416.79360.002942.62
πŸ₯‰Ellie21660.00407.42407.42407.42202.00424.42
4.Patti_Scialfa1348.00296.00568.50735.33166.00785.83
5.sebcbien21240.00664.081094.921623.25147.253907.25
6.haasjeredje1032.5032.5072.5072.5032.5072.50
6.act1032.5032.5051.7586.7532.50255.50
8.md4926.0026.0040.0040.0026.0040.00
9.DebbyJ721.50346.33698.16974.16122.251900.08
9.rbw--3721.5054.0054.0062.2554.00146.50
11.chickaboom617.0017.0017.0027.3317.0034.08
11.Mastermind617.0017.00228.00511.0017.00601.00
13.shortfatsally514.0014.0014.0021.7514.0029.50
14.Frederf412.0012.0012.0026.6712.0033.67
15.ix39.1718.0418.04113.1718.041100.91
15.IleneDover39.179.179.1718.339.1718.33
15.hotturkey39.179.179.179.179.1790.17
18.TitanicTony27.25350.581073.581867.0861.254308.92
18.redberet27.25397.25704.831009.16161.252443.33
18.ForGotteNNapKiN27.25546.75546.75546.75198.75546.75
18.Aurora4427.257.257.257.257.257.25
22.clb15.5028.0043.0066.0028.0066.00
22.giammer15.5027.5038.5098.8313.50106.33
22.1wonderful15.505.505.5014.675.5014.67

Date: Tue May 23 01:28:40 2023
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:
Top-10 of the upcoming 7x4w

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1HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
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2Klepp
382.00654.571311
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300.83737.60111211
4TitanicTony
290.75832.31131111
5outskirts
280.00546.671211
6act
255.50636.5011211
7sebcbien2
235.75826.19111131
8RottinJohn
149.00524.8311111
9Mastermind
131.00426.201111
10DebbyJ
122.25813.58121121


Link: WWCX home page

Date: Wed May 24 00:22:31 2023
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:
Under way.

Date: Thu May 25 01:30:59 2023
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:
Week 135 (24-May-2023 7x4w)

#PlayerStreakPoints16-week32-week53-weekYearlyAlltime
=================
πŸ₯‡Ellie225100.00691.001098.421098.42893.001115.42
πŸ₯ˆThe-Bible-is-the-Word-of-God2472.00470.83470.831137.83470.831926.33
πŸ₯‰redberet2260.00559.33956.581275.16720.583002.66
4.HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom1948.001225.002679.004235.501635.009789.00
5.Whats-his-name1837.50335.50335.50579.50335.501006.50
5.Patti_Scialfa1837.50169.50465.50762.50335.50955.33
7.xyzabc1330.00190.00209.00209.00190.00209.00
8.kozman341226.0066.0066.00114.0066.00466.00
9.act1023.0023.0055.50109.7555.50278.50
10.silvrstreak917.00145.50314.25346.00145.50752.33
10.Klepp917.00589.501376.832349.42949.503532.12
10.ElGuapo917.0069.75129.75205.2583.75491.00
10.chickaboom917.0017.0034.0034.0034.0051.08
14.DebbyJ812.00379.00725.331170.16501.252279.08
15.haasjeredje510.0010.0042.5082.5042.5082.50
16.rbw--349.00109.00163.00171.25163.00255.50
17.hotturkey38.258.2517.4217.4217.4298.42
17.tileguy38.258.2545.75122.758.25246.75
19.sebcbien227.00603.831267.921836.25751.084511.08
19.ix27.00103.75121.79121.79121.791204.66
19.Frederf27.007.0019.0028.1719.0040.67
22.2323james15.505.505.5018.505.5030.50
22.giammer15.5022.5050.0079.0836.00128.83
22.IleneDover15.505.5014.6723.8314.6723.83

Date: Tue Sep 12 01:26:17 2023
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:

Top-10 of the upcoming 7x4w

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Date: Wed Sep 13 00:03:24 2023
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:

Underway


Date: Thu Sep 14 01:35:45 2023
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:

Week 151 (13-Sep-2023 7x4w)

#PlayerStreakPoints16-week32-week53-weekYearlyAlltime
πŸ₯‡HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom30100.001302.002527.004379.002937.0011091.00
πŸ₯ˆWhats-his-name2972.00874.001209.501209.501209.501880.50
πŸ₯‰smelly_cootiefied_fence_post2860.00109.50167.25282.50222.501223.75
4.xyzabc2048.00658.00848.00867.00848.00867.00
5.Ellie21340.00564.001255.001662.421457.001679.42
6.joeygray1232.50125.37125.37204.96125.371008.54
6.LizPatton1232.5032.5032.5032.5032.50135.00
8.datrox-31124.50131.00191.00191.00191.00191.00
8.DebbyJ1124.50236.45615.451074.86737.702515.53
10.sebcbien21019.00416.001019.831832.251167.084927.08
10.act1019.0019.0042.0093.7574.50297.50
12.Purohit816.00121.00121.00121.00121.00121.00
13.jimmyp713.0021.00116.00116.00116.00541.75
13.Marco1296713.0013.0013.0013.0013.0013.00
15.T1-T369.50176.50193.75215.75193.75852.50
15.hotturkey69.509.5017.7526.9226.92107.92
17.SirPape58.25218.54218.54218.54218.54218.54
17.Frederf58.258.2515.2527.2527.2548.92
19.LadyLove47.0067.7567.7567.7567.7567.75
19.redberet47.00446.001005.331421.331166.583448.66
19.rbw--347.00147.00256.00310.00310.00402.50
22.laran@play35.755.755.755.755.755.75
22.chickaboom35.755.7522.7539.7539.7556.83
24.867-530925.005.005.005.005.00105.00


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Date: Fri Sep 15 13:25:18 2023
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:

I was rolling right along...............but then decided I needed *some* sleep (but failed at that task), so I paused at 28.  AND.............as SOOO often happens, Denny's dealer just despised that act of disengagement.  So when I finally came back, with very limited time, I tried to squeeze in another 1 or 2, but failed.  Yes, it was winnable, but a tough game.  Olfactorily offensive.  Congrats, Hop.


Date: Fri Sep 15 14:04:34 2023
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:

Thanks.

I would be OK with the third place but when I woke up, I saw that I was not far behind with half an hour left of the day. So I decided to play on and I could manage to win five games just before the EOD started.


Date: Tue Jan 2 00:25:50 2024
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:

Top-10 of the upcoming 7x4w

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2

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Date: Wed Jan 3 00:13:08 2024
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:

Underway.


Date: Wed Jan 3 11:41:01 2024
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:
7.4%195223309
7.4% and 5.1%, *climate 5* deals, in succession.  Who sorts these deals into climates?!?  That's ridiculous - and very, very stinky!  These deals need an air freshener!5.1%199517

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Date: Thu Jan 4 00:28:01 2024
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:

Week 167 (03-Jan-2024 7x4w)

#PlayerStreakPoints16-week32-week53-weekYearlyAlltime
πŸ₯‡Whats-his-name31100.00577.501451.501787.00100.002458.00
πŸ₯ˆxyzabc2972.00988.001646.001836.0072.001855.00
πŸ₯‰rbw--32360.0097.75244.75407.7560.00500.25
4.smelly_cootiefied_fence_post2148.00302.00411.50524.5048.001525.75
5.act2040.0058.0077.00132.5040.00355.50
6.Ellie21635.00562.501126.502019.5035.002241.92
7.md41126.3326.3326.3352.3326.3366.33
7.redberet1126.33463.17909.171629.7526.333911.83
7.HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom1126.331142.672444.674079.6726.3312233.67
10.hotturkey1020.0020.0029.5046.9220.00127.92
11.Chickaboom918.0018.0018.0018.0018.0018.00
12.Plunkie515.0015.0015.0015.0015.0015.00
12.silvrstreak515.0094.00236.75382.2515.00989.08
14.DebbyJ411.00245.33481.78983.0311.002760.86
14.sebcbien2411.00425.67841.671592.7511.005352.75
16.laran@play28.508.5014.2514.258.5014.25
16.Frederf28.508.5016.7535.758.5057.42
16.SirPape28.50391.00609.54609.548.50609.54
19.Uberman17.5063.92127.41198.797.501384.70


For more: WWCX Home Page


Date: Tue Apr 23 00:12:08 2024
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:

Top-10 of the upcoming 7x4w

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11






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Date: Wed Apr 24 00:05:46 2024
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:

Underway.


Date: Wed Apr 24 22:41:14 2024
User: GoAdoptADog!
Message:

Hey, is score glitching for anyone? I lost a 7X4w a little while ago, so started playing again. Won about 5 in a row. (On the last game I played I had to get up for a while to help the neighbors cat, but came back and won it- thats why time is so long.) Anyway the last one I played the little box said my streak was at 2, but that's not correct. Also, I looked and it hadn't switched to 7x4 reg, it was still on 7x4w. Any idea why that happens? Here's my recent play at time of posting this. 

4/2422:357x4 13987-5Streak2:12Won34.3%161980233
4/2422:337x4 18581-5Streak5:30Won55.9%1484123220
4/2422:077x4 21173-5Winnable17:20Won63.1%1421101160
4/2421:437x4 19340-5Winnable2:47Won22.9%172762271
4/2421:417x4 24452-5Winnable1:10Won89.1%1172179201
4/2421:397x4 30542-5Winnable2:03Won28.1%168172256
4/2421:377x4 7465-5Winnable2:40Lost32.8%166667204

Date: Wed Apr 24 23:39:17 2024
User: Kumquat-of-Conciliation
Message:

You have again (I think this is at least twice??) fallen victim to the long-standing, (apparently) intractable problem, known but uncorrected for many years, of "the system" changing from one flavor to the other.  It most often happens changing from winnables to regular, but the opposite has occurred, too.  Much cyberink has been spent on this forum discussing.  It most often happens when there is a time lag in play (like timing out, which may have triggered the event for you in this case, looking at the timing of your games), change of machines, or other 'interruption', altho it can absolutely happen without those provocations as well. 

You can find numerous other threads about this, but they're scattered.  Denny is aware of the problem but hasn't been able to solve it.  For a long time, he requested very specific steps so that he could reproduce the issue.  He has been given same multiple times, so it must truly be a tough fix. 


Date: Wed Apr 24 23:47:17 2024
User: GoAdoptADog!
Message:

Thanks Kumquat. Yeah, it happens to me a lot that it changes from winnable to reg, but the game still said winnable is why I’m confused. The next game that auto came up was in winnable mode?

usually when it flips, the next game is reg. But it was still 7x4w.


oh well, I lost about 5 games later anyway but it always seems to happen to me late at night, creeping up on the cutoff time so it’s double annoying bc then I can’t remedy by starting again. Would’ve lost eventually anyway tho, as I said, so no big. Thanks for response tho :)


Date: Thu Apr 25 00:03:31 2024
User: Kumquat-of-Conciliation
Message:

It even has its own *internal* schizophrenia.  Note these pics posted by TNmountainman a few years ago:

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Date: Thu Apr 25 00:22:49 2024
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:

Week 183 (24-Apr-2024 7x4w)

#PlayerStreakPoints16-week32-week53-weekYearlyAlltime
πŸ₯‡xyzabc20100.00728.001716.002516.00800.002583.00
πŸ₯ˆredberet1972.00695.001158.171734.17721.334606.83
πŸ₯‰smelly_cootiefied_fence_post1760.00253.00555.00687.25301.001778.75
4.Mastermind1644.00138.50138.50138.50138.50799.50
4.Ellie21644.00495.501058.001847.00530.502737.42
6.Whats-his-name1535.00695.331272.832482.33795.333153.33
7.GoAdoptADog!1230.00233.00452.33452.33233.00452.33
8.act1026.0026.0084.00126.0066.00381.50
9.Chickaboom923.0023.0041.0041.0041.0041.00
10.SirPape620.00383.25774.25992.79391.75992.79
11.DebbyJ518.00283.75529.08865.53294.753044.61
12.Aurora44416.0016.0016.0016.0016.0023.25
13.rbw--3313.00181.00278.75449.75241.00681.25
13.T1-T3313.00228.00522.33706.58228.001374.83
15.sebcbien2210.00447.75873.421461.42458.755800.50
16.HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom18.501035.252177.923832.921061.5813268.91
16.silvrstreak18.50114.00208.00378.75129.001103.08
16.Frederf18.508.5017.0032.2517.0065.92


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Date: Tue Aug 13 00:10:44 2024
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:

Top-10 of the upcoming 7x4w

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121

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9Ellie2279.00546.501
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10xyzabc250.00450.0011
1

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Date: Wed Aug 14 06:27:20 2024
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:

I've played 7 games.  The winning percentages of said games are:  13.9%, 34.6%, 93.2%, 79.2%, 76.8%, 17.3%, and 18.7%.  *Supposedly* climate 5 games.  I think not!!  I smell something rotten in freecell Land!!


[Update:  *IMMEDIATELY* followed by 5 games with a winning percentage over 75%.  We know that a lot of the time the squeaky wheel gets the grease...............but does it have to be so obvious??]


Date: Wed Aug 14 11:33:46 2024
User: Punster
Message:


Is that the same player that thinks "Winnable" is so much easier than regular ??


Date: Wed Aug 14 14:21:10 2024
User: rbw--3
Message:

"but does it have to be so obvious?"

This looks like a freecell conspiracy theory. Does this mean are games are being chosen based on whether someone in authority likes us or not? 




Date: Wed Aug 14 14:55:40 2024
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:

I'm not gonna go *quite* that far.........but one wonders..........    Denny's dealers are known to be capricious and reactive.  The phenomenon of being punished for taking a break, for just one example.

And @ Punster...........I do certainly agree with that "mountainman"'s unassailable logic on that matter.  And, like him........I do feel the need to take a shower after indulging, even for the occasional WWC.


Date: Wed Aug 14 15:58:52 2024
User: cellmate
Message:

didn't calling it climate 5 'splain all that?


Date: Wed Aug 14 17:36:27 2024
User: smelly_cootified_fence_post
Message:

While that is an *excellent* point...........it's a question of degree, I guess.  Yes, there's occasional snow in April, and the rare 20 C day in January - but those are clear outliers.  Just like in weather "climate change", we have to adjust.  The 'pattern' of (the very first) 4 games out of 7 being less than 35% won seems to indicate a possible change in THE "climate" - and whoever rates these games needs to move a bunch of them up to climate 7, 8, or whatever.  Just seems fair.  On the other hand.............as rbw--3 alludes........it could be that I'm just being persecuted based solely on my odeur 🦨, stinky as that concept thought is.


Date: Wed Aug 14 17:57:20 2024
User: cellmate
Message:

Climate change?  Noooo... can't do that..... That would invalidate the sacred statistics


Date: Thu Aug 15 00:46:30 2024
User: rbw--3
Message:

"The phenomenon of being punished for taking a break, for just one example."

Then why not start a game and save it before a break? 





Date: Thu Aug 15 00:55:19 2024
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:

a)  I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't doubt that would still count as taking a break.  That game might be won, but then the dealer would take you to the woodshed on the next one.

b)  Don't want to give out the vibe of playing offline and then 'entering' the win.  And/or........it's well known that some here pause games to make their time/game less.  That's always been a mystery to me, but 'they' still do it.


Date: Thu Aug 15 15:22:53 2024
User: sebcbien2
Message:



Date: Thu Aug 15 19:03:25 2024
User: GoAdoptADog!
Message:

Smelly, I don’t understand, how would pausing help a player have shorter game time? Or do you mean they’d go use cards to try to figure it out, come back and do it quickly?

If so, won’t that come across tho?..it seems like that’d take a rlly long time out of their daily games. Like a few games an hour I mean, or something. But idk I could be wrong. 

Anyway- mostly wanted to ask, I have opposite problem where if I get up to do something I often forget to pause and I’m assuming it decimates my game times. I’m definitely better abt it now-for prob month or so I oft pause- but for long time never bothered. 

Do you happen to know, when avg time is calculated, is it length of time you usually play that variant, or does it tally mean by all my games of variant?  If the former it prob never affected me much, is why I ask. But if the latter, then.. d’oh


Date: Thu Aug 15 21:12:16 2024
User: smelly_cootified_fence_post
Message:

Pausing a game stops the running time of the game clock.  I'm completely oblivious as to why that matters so much to some folks, but it does.  We've had long discussions in the past about it.  For tournaments..........sure - that's part of it (which is why I'd prefer they all be deadly, as I believe there should be a penalty for wrong "guesses"). 

As to stopping the clock to use cards, take notes, or whatever........yes, that's what 'the usual suspects' do.  To me it's almost like compounding the deception - or more properly, *trying* to.  It's *almost* funny, but actually more pathetic or pitiful, tbh ("truth be here" πŸ˜†).  But at least they, or at least the two main usual suspects, admit the first part of it.

I'm virtually certain the average time is the average of all the games one plays of any particular variant.  Others can correct me if'n I'm wrong on that point. But why worry?  Denny quit paying out prize money looooong ago (yes(!), he used to!).  And even then I don't think it was a time-dependent thing.  Have fun. Grow flowers; treat bees; tame wild animals πŸ™‚.  The clock is not your enemy - except in tournaments, and in life in general.  ⏳ -------> βŒ›


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