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Subject: Seldom won winnable games.


Date: Tue Nov 26 01:26:00 2024
User: cellmate
Message:

Nice work Ellie2!


Date: Tue Nov 26 02:29:17 2024
User: roo
Message:

Not a bad return for four minute's play!

Game:9x0 26075-5
Game stats:20/2/10%/2089
Player Elo:1745.196  7.097
Elapsed:4:11
Streak:1

Date: Tue Nov 26 17:28:44 2024
User: TitanicTony
Message:

YES, very nice, roo,...👍!

Game: 10x0 5764-5;....  Game stats: 17/3/17.6%/1903;....  Player Elo: 2336.743 ▲ 0.613.


Date: Thu Nov 28 05:45:56 2024
User: sebcbien2
Message:

while attending a useless meeting...

Game:12x0 30791-5
Game stats:57/5/8.8%/1924
Player Elo:1973.369  3.520
Elapsed:8:55

Date: Fri Nov 29 12:13:39 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

9x2 5726-12



The knot seemed almost Gordian, to me.


Date: Sat Dec 14 11:33:53 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

        Game: 7x4 28471-8;
Game stats: 9/2/22.2%/1813;
  Player Elo: 2243.425 ▲ 0.625.


Date: Sat Dec 14 11:51:16 2024
User: Uncle_Vito
Message:

With a 2243 elo, you are expected to win an 1813 elo game every time.  Nothing to brag about.


Date: Mon Dec 16 17:26:31 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

Well, now my 'Elo' is even better (lol):

        Game: W9x2 14537-10
Game stats: 37/3/8.1%/2128
  Player Elo: 2250.703 ▲ 2.705.


Date: Mon Dec 16 18:13:18 2024
User: Uncle_Vito
Message:

Still, you are expected to win that game on the first try.  Still nothing to brag about.  

Come back with the game elo is greater than your elo.


Date: Wed Dec 18 09:23:46 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

Sorry, but I've never been dealt a game with an 'Elo' greater than mine, except for the unwinnable games, but I still manage to lose A LOT OF GAMES, ☹!   For example, just last Monday, I lost 3 games in one day.


Date: Wed Dec 18 09:29:24 2024
User: BuzzClik
Message:

Never?


Date: Wed Dec 18 10:48:29 2024
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Gosh, now I've just won one of these "impossible" games, but its 'Elo' is still 122 points less than mine.

Game: 6x4 22064-5;.....  Game stats: 83/2/2.4%/2210;.....  Player Elo: 2332.415 ▲ 2.703.


Date: Wed Dec 18 11:21:31 2024
User: Kumquat-of-Conciliation
Message:

This elo system must be terribly flawed.  I can't imagine your 'true' elo would be less than 6,000-8,000.


Date: Wed Dec 18 11:24:18 2024
User: Uncle_Vito
Message:

Assuming your elo is not artificially high for some unknown reason, you are still expected to win that game, perhaps with more careful play than you normally would use.  


Again, nothing to brag about.




Date: Wed Dec 18 11:41:48 2024
User: TitanicTony
Message:

It's not "bragging", it's commenting (keeping a record, which is why the thread was started)...


Date: Wed Dec 18 11:57:49 2024
User: Uncle_Vito
Message:

If "keeping a record" is the reason for starting a thread, why not start one titled "Often lost winnable games" and record your losses there?


Date: Wed Dec 18 12:19:26 2024
User: TitanicTony
Message:

See the thread "Never lost winnables".


Date: Sun Feb 28 16:23:24 2021
User: jamesblackburn-lynch
Message:
Anyone want to join me in posting to the FreeCell Hall of Shame?

2/28 16:20 10x2 7660-10 Streak 13:37 Lost 88.9% 1267 8 9

That’s gonna hurt.

James

Date: Wed Dec 18 12:31:50 2024
User: Kumquat-of-Conciliation
Message:

Not the same thing, Tony, but I correctly predicted that you'd think it was.


Date: Wed Dec 18 12:33:53 2024
User: Uncle_Vito
Message:

Either way, still bragging about doing, or not doing, what is expected of you.


Date: Sun Dec 22 14:19:38 2024
User: kangaroo
Message:

... and it remains seldom won 

Game:12x0 6834-5
Game stats:98/1/1%/2029
Elo:1762.221 -1.436
Elapsed:4:57

Date: Sun Dec 22 16:12:59 2024
User: Uberman
Message:

Wow, roo, I didn't even know 12x0s with stats like that existed - pretty extraordinary for that variant.


Date: Sun Dec 22 20:48:34 2024
User: GoAdoptADog!
Message:

Impressive one Roo! Great job!


Date: Mon Dec 23 02:44:55 2024
User: roo
Message:

Er Go, if you look closely you will see a red down arrow, meaning I lost that game. Uberman just picked up the newsworthyness of my post. I suspect the game was in a tournament.  


Date: Mon Dec 23 03:32:32 2024
User: Mastermind
Message:

Tournament, repeated streak play, whatever, absolutely delightful game. Win count augmented by one.


Date: Mon Dec 23 04:51:42 2024
User: roo
Message:

I just checked my recent play and saw the stats at 2/103. I knew someone would tackle it. Then I came here and was totally unsurprised to see Mastermind's comment. Congrats. 


Date: Mon Dec 23 05:15:37 2024
User: Mastermind
Message:



Date: Sat Jan 4 02:29:22 2025
User: TNmountainman
Message:

Whoever classifies these games as to difficulty had the extreme temerity to call this one climate 5:

11x0 4142-5
Game stats:99/2/2%

Ain't no way.  I'm betting whoever has beaten it did so by brute force. 


Date: Sat Jan 4 08:06:24 2025
User: cellmate
Message:

Bummer... a streak ender... most folks didn't have to play that game. makes you wonder about that average streak difficulty thing    eh TN?


Date: Sat Jan 4 15:00:34 2025
User: roo
Message:

Of course the by-naughts are the only variant that God considered when devising the level parameters. Get over it!


Date: Sat Jan 4 15:30:49 2025
User: outskirts
Message:

He misses Andy Jim 


Date: Sat Jan 4 16:20:33 2025
User: TNmountainman
Message:

Well, at least somebody got it.


Date: Mon Jan 6 09:15:19 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 7x3 10263-6;.....  Game stats: 10/2/20%/1719;.....  Player Elo: 2308.397 ▲ 0.261.


Date: Mon Jan 6 09:26:11 2025
User: firenze
Message:

Unless your elo is artificially inflated, you should beat a 1719 elo game. 

Nothing to brag about.


Date: Mon Jan 6 11:19:53 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 7x3 4478-6;.....  Game stats: 31/4/12.9%/1921;.....  Player Elo: 2309.436 ▲ 0.779.

Not "bragging", just "seldom won", which is the title of this thread!

This thread is here (and was started by me) in case some other players want to try it.


Date: Mon Jan 13 12:15:31 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

        Game: W8x3 9182-9;
Game stats: 53/2/3.8%/2121;
  Player Elo: 2233.630 ▲ 2.804.


Date: Tue Jan 21 18:47:57 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

This one was a surprise!

Game: 10x0 22922-5;...  Game stats: 25/2/8%/2030;...  Player Elo: 2305.822 ▲ 1.377.


Date: Mon Jan 27 20:08:58 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

        Game: 7x4 5122-9;
Game stats: 22/3/13.6%/1953;
  Player Elo: 2231.213 ▲ 1.363.


Date: Thu Jan 30 20:36:24 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 6x4 20338-5;.....  Game stats: 84/3/3.6%/2168;.....  Player Elo: 2292.800 ▲ 2.677.


Date: Sat Feb 1 07:36:09 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

Game: 9x1 9358-5;.....  Game stats: 38/4/10.5%/1946;.....  Player Elo: 2235.132 ▲ 1.292.


Date: Fri Feb 7 12:30:04 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

This was a surprise -- it wasn't that difficult, imo...

Game: 11x0 20647-5;.....  Game stats: 27/2/7.4%/1923;.....  Player Elo: 2245.213 ▲ 1.095.


Date: Fri Feb 7 22:54:12 2025
User: roo
Message:

Toughie, 2C and 4S at top of same column:

Game:5x7 23190-5
Game stats:18/3/16.7%/1855
Player Elo:1819.021  4.523
Elapsed:8:00
Streak:3

Date: Mon Feb 10 11:15:38 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

Fun game!

Game: 11x0 1148-5;.....  Game stats: 47/4/8.5%/1991;.....  Player Elo: 2244.107 ▲ 1.535.


Date: Mon Feb 10 18:23:16 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Difficult game:

Game: 11x0 30516-5;.....  Game stats: 39/4/10.3%/1954;.....  Player Elo: 2299.602 ▲ 0.972.


Date: Wed Feb 12 22:41:17 2025
User: d164280
Message:

11x0 13292-10 11/1/9.1%/1823, much more difficult game than yours, Tony, and what did I get for a great solve without cards? Screwed on the ELO. 4077-10 24/5 1905  4062-10 3/1 1910   4006-10 7/1 1912 3909-10 4/1 1913. 


Date: Sat Feb 15 10:13:01 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

This one barely qualifies as "seldom won"....

Game: 6x5 15640-6;.....  Game stats: 13/4/30.8%/1772;.....  Player Elo: 2248.140 ▲ 0.486.


Date: Sat Feb 15 10:25:33 2025
User: firenze
Message:

30.8%??


Maybe we need a definition of "seldom won".


Or can we just make it up as we go?


Date: Sun Feb 23 01:13:05 2025
User: redberet
Message:

I pressed the right button on this one.







Date: Mon Feb 24 19:55:45 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 6x4 26391-5;.....  Game stats: 105/2/1.9%/2257;.....  Player Elo: 2307.317 ▲ 3.511.

Interesting game -- several deadend paths.


Date: Mon Feb 24 20:16:50 2025
User: firenze
Message:

Most honest people consider dead ends loses.


Date: Tue Feb 25 02:22:36 2025
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

I believe mental health professionals characterize these individuals as sociopaths (i.e., those who cannot even be shamed into communally acceptable behaviors, short of debilitating punishment (à la ball-peen hammer taken hard to offenders' digits)).




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