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Subject: Seldom won winnable games.


Date: Mon May 6 13:14:26 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:
Game: 11x0 25335-5
Game stats: 
29/2/6.9%


Unfortunately, I messed up my first try -- boo hoo hoo hoo!


Date: Mon May 6 13:25:56 2024
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Gee, Ellie, really bad luck.  That would have been such a good game to win on your 1st try!!!

Better luck next time!


Date: Mon May 6 13:55:08 2024
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Gosh, Ellie, I've just had better luck than you!

Game: 11x0 30491-5;..... Game stats: 25/3/12%/1871;..... Player Elo: 2302.613 ▲ 0.621.


Date: Tue May 7 19:41:11 2024
User: kangaroo
Message:

Not seldom won but this game is unusual - I believe one overlooked factor is to consider what can simply be sent home as a means of clearing a column. In this case hearts was the key suit.

Game:12x0 19546-5
Game stats:43/26/60.5%/1477
Player Elo:1850.619  0.843
Elapsed:6:04
Streak:9

Date: Thu May 9 17:04:29 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

This game didn't seem THAT hard.

Game: 10x0 1300-5
Game stats:  15/2/13.3%/1967
Player Elo: 
2236.839  1.415.



Date: Sat May 11 22:04:27 2024
User: cellmate
Message:
This one ended my 12x0 streak today... easy (third try)... don't do the obvious first move
Game: 12x0 29046-6
Game stats: 11/3/27.3%


Date: Sun May 12 14:02:00 2024
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 6x4 18568-5;.... Game stats: 59/3/5.1%/2139;.... Player Elo: 2311.763 ▲ 2.198.

Now that is a much nicer 'Elo' reward than the 0.409 that I got for the never won 7x3 earlier today!

This one really makes my day!


Date: Fri May 17 07:01:11 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

This one also has a good 'Elo' reward:

        Game: W6x5 7588-10
Game stats: 31/4/12.9%/2057
  Player Elo: 2244.097 ▲ 2.069.


Date: Sat May 18 06:19:24 2024
User: roo
Message:

I'll take it!

Game:5x7 12650-5
Game stats:9/1/11.1%/1878
Player Elo:1773.519  5.279
Elapsed:3:50
Streak:3

Date: Sat May 18 19:08:43 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

9x2 25094-7


second of 83...yeah, really difficult.


Date: Mon May 20 09:30:37 2024
User: sebcbien2
Message:

a little move is required before starting the column opening


Game:12x0 22973-5
Game stats:67/4/6%/1962
Player Elo:1938.764  4.373
Elapsed:5:12


Date: Mon May 20 17:32:10 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

         Game: 6x4 26659-5

Game stats: 47/3/6.4%/2063

   Player Elo: 2244.248 ▲ 2.123.


Date: Thu May 23 01:13:30 2024
User: kangaroo
Message:

A rare 11x0 hard get for me!

Game:11x0 4314-5
Game stats:39/3/7.7%/1988
Player Elo:1794.081  6.132
Elapsed:8:34
Streak:6

Date: Thu May 23 15:06:48 2024
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: W6x5 17600-10;.... Game stats: 34/2/5.9%/2208;.... Player Elo: 2319.820 ▲ 2.815.


Date: Thu May 23 18:40:57 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

        Game: 10x0 5961-5

Game stats: 24/3/12.5%/1958

   Player Elo: 2245.562 ▲ 1.300.


Date: Sat May 25 12:11:24 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

        Game: 9x1 25475-5
Game stats: 32/3/9.4%/1948
   Player Elo: 2242.285 ▲ 1.257.


Date: Fri May 31 05:17:56 2024
User: cellmate
Message:

Nice payout on this one

Game: 11x0 31901-8
Game stats: 46/2/4.3%/2094
Player Elo: 1760.692 ▲ 7.052
Elapsed: 13:32



Date: Mon Jun 3 17:29:16 2024
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 8x2 8346-5;..... Game stats: 49/2/4.1%/2024;..... Player Elo: 2318.270 ▲ 1.255.


Date: Thu Jun 6 14:48:29 2024
User: pseudonymous
Message:

9x2 14236-6

Dont know to tell if this game is winnable. ELO dinged me only 4 points or so! 



Date: Thu Jun 6 15:28:33 2024
User: Kumquat-of-Conciliation
Message:

That means it *is* winnable.  If it wasn't, you would have lost zero points.  And the elo of the game itself would be 5000 - or close to it - not 1986, which is what it shows in your play record.


Date: Thu Jun 20 12:36:53 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

        Game: 7x3 22763-6
Game stats: 15/2/13.3%/1923
  Player Elo: 2235.269 ▲ 1.150.


Date: Sat Jun 22 19:11:28 2024
User: TitanicTony
Message:

This was a very good last game of my day!

Game: 7x5 634-7;..... Game stats: 15/3/20%/1688;..... Player Elo: 2318.985 ▲ 0.207.


Date: Sat Jun 29 12:37:45 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

        Game: 10x1 2917-5;
Game stats: 219/3/1.4%/2176;
  Player Elo: 2215.488 ▲ 3.634.


Date: Sat Jul 6 10:36:15 2024
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Gee, not a very big reward for this one:
Game: 7x3 13599-5;..... Game stats: 63/2/3.2%/2082;..... Player Elo: 2325.414 ▲ 1.604.


Date: Sat Jul 6 12:01:49 2024
User: sebcbien2
Message:

don't ask me how...

You Win

Game:7x3 65-5
Game stats:71/3/4.2%/2033

Date: Tue Jul 16 08:18:38 2024
User: kangaroo
Message:

From Tuesday 0600 Freakout:

First play of this game showed 2/305. Leave it to the end.

It's not that hard when you realise that chasing hearts will solve it. I ended up playing it about ten times, solving it after the bell.

You Win
Game:6x5 25562-8
Game stats:337/3/0.9%
Player Elo:n/a
Elapsed:2:52
Streak:n/a

Date: Tue Jul 16 19:43:31 2024
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: W9x2 31438-10;..... Game stats: 35/2/5.7%/2025;..... Player Elo: 2333.130 ▲ 1.174.

BRAVO, kangaroo! Very well done on the game posted just above!


Date: Tue Jul 16 20:27:06 2024
User: kangaroo
Message:

Thanks TT. I wish I'd tackled it earlier but there were other toughies to be won. Strangely it was just ValpoJim and me and he was better overall.


Date: Tue Jul 16 20:54:02 2024
User: Lindyhopper_Agame
Message:

Wow, looking at the 6x5 337/3/0.9%.  I hadn't remembered ever seeing a below 1% before.

But I looked on an old laptop at some screenshots I had taken, and found a game I won back in 2012 - over 10 years ago - that was just slightly higher than your game.  (7x4-5 31484; at that time it was 216/2/0.93%; is there way to check it now w/o playing it?).  



Date: Tue Jul 16 22:25:31 2024
User: kangaroo
Message:

Yes, go to the Scores page, look for "Game Stats" on right hand side and click on the link for 7x4, level 5. Then enter the game number. Here's the result:




Date: Tue Jul 16 23:01:29 2024
User: Kumquat-of-Conciliation
Message:

If there was any justice in this world....................that game would be moved to *at least* climate 8 -- and 11,12, or 13 would be more appropriate. AmIright?


Date: Wed Jul 17 04:39:48 2024
User: roo
Message:

No.


Date: Wed Jul 17 05:46:48 2024
User: roo
Message:

To support my answer, here are the stats for the same level 5 game for all 7 column variants:

7x1   0/0

7x2   0/13

7x3   0/39

7x4   2/447

7x5   3/8

7x6   19/33

7x7   1/1

7x8   0/0

To banish the 7x4 to a higher level is to banish the lot.



Date: Thu Jul 18 00:16:34 2024
User: Lindyhopper_Agame
Message:

OMG - no one has one that game in the last 12 years? 

I understand the point about moving it, but I there is only an overall correlation between level and how hard it is.  I think levels were assigned before there were any % stats.


TY for showing me that lookup.


Date: Thu Jul 18 06:36:12 2024
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: W6x5 16127-10;..... Game stats: 172/5/2.9%/2311;.....  Player Elo: 2339.264 ▲ 3.769. 
WOW, that's maybe my biggest 1 game 'Elo' score ever?


Date: Mon Jul 22 09:47:30 2024
User: roo
Message:

Not that hard! Got it in three!

Game:8x0 4283-5
Game stats:10/1/10%
Player Elo:n/a
Elapsed:3:23
Streak:n/a

Date: Mon Jul 22 10:11:49 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

         Game: 8x3 21778-5; 

Game stats: 90/3/3.3%/2042; 

   Player Elo: 2234.789 ▲ 2.021.


Date: Wed Jul 24 17:25:53 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

         Game: W10x1 17563-9;  
Game stats: 14/2/14.3%/1801; 
   Player Elo: 2240.047 ▲ 0.596.


Date: Tue Jul 30 05:56:43 2024
User: kangaroo
Message:

I don't win these very often in 12x0. It was an unusual way to clear a column, moving a red queen and jack with the help of some cooperative low clubs! 

Game:12x0 22613-5
Game stats:54/6/11.1%/1861
Player Elo:1788.419  4.936
Elapsed:3:10
Streak:10
Today:6

Date: Tue Jul 30 16:08:02 2024
User: Punster
Message:

Wow, almost 5 ELO points !!   L-)


Date: Tue Aug 13 18:24:10 2024
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 10x0 12785-5;..... Game stats: 30/4/13.3%/1942;..... Player Elo: 2345.603 ▲ 0.717.


Date: Wed Aug 14 17:09:04 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

Another game that spoilt the level-10 streaks of 2 players:

        Game: W7x4 32480-10;
Game stats: 4/2/50%/1737;
  Player Elo: 2230.615 ▲ 0.444.


Date: Fri Aug 16 07:06:21 2024
User: kangaroo
Message:

After a silly loss in 4x8 I don't mind the recovery.

8/167:024x8 17577-5Streak4:02Won14.3%199317
8/166:584x8 27981-5Streak3:44Won20%195215
8/165:064x8 14586-5Streak5:06Lost66.7%164546

Date: Sat Aug 17 05:54:46 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

This was a good win, imo:

        Game: 5x6 18447-5;
Game stats: 4/2/50%/1827;
  Player Elo: 2187.106 ▲ 0.902.


Date: Mon Aug 19 07:58:48 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

My first 7x3 game today was a difficult one:

        Game: 7x3 12750-5;
Game stats: 32/4/12.5%/1848;
  Player Elo: 2192.296 ▲ 0.978.


Date: Mon Aug 19 09:52:04 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

GOSH, my 2nd 7x3 game today was even more difficult:

        Game: 7x3 32025-5;
Game stats: 41/2/4.9%/2011;
  Player Elo: 2194.399 ▲ 2.103.


Date: Tue Aug 20 02:01:26 2024
User: roo
Message:

Won on first replay. Need to release an Ace later than looks apparent at first glance.

Game:9x0 3309-5
Game stats:26/1/3.8%
Player Elo:n/a
Elapsed:4:21
Streak:n/a

Date: Tue Aug 20 04:39:42 2024
User: Uberman
Message:

Thanks for the tip, roo. I can see why a lot of people would've been tempted by that Ace  and it's possible I'd have done the same if I hadn't read your comment before trying it. Still a tad tricky even after that, but certainly a game for the more patient of players!


Date: Fri Aug 23 18:33:17 2024
User: redberet
Message:

Even after two open columns it was still stubborn. Putting the 2C in an empty column did the trick.



Date: Mon Aug 26 16:25:22 2024
User: Ellie2
Message:

        Game: W8x3 25540-8;
Game stats: 59/5/8.5%/1938;
  Player Elo: 2208.170 ▲ 1.414.



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